Brezhnev took Afghanistan.
Begin took Beirut
For these words from song 'Get your filthy hands off my desert' Pink Floyd was prohibited in so-called USSR
"The mention of the Afghan war and Brezhnev, who was then mentioned again (together with the "party") in the song 'The Fletcher Memorial Home' from the same album, served as the reason for the ban of Pink Floyd in the USSR with the official wording "perversion of the foreign policy of the USSR"
There they are, under number 19
This was no state or government ban. Ban was introduced by the so-called 'public' olrganizations, in the name of ALL soviet people. In their oppinions, all of 300 millions, 'as one', included new-born and deep older people, demanded to prohibit music😀 Not only Pink Floyd, of course!
Among this list you will find Sex Pistols, The B-52s, (punk, violence), Styx (violence ans vandalism) №11 - AC/DC forbidden for 'propaganda of neo-fascism and violence'. №9 - Iron Maiden, they was banned for 'violence and religious obscurantism', like Black Sabbath, which symbolically placed under number 13😀 Judas Priest (10) banned for 'rasizm' and anti-communism (perhabs, what's right is right!) and at the same time USSR forbidded The Clash, who was always left-wing and anti-war musicians!😀 They banned for violence!🤣
Tina Turner 'propaganded' sex, and, of course, was banned for it! In USSR, as we know, there was no sex there! If you, reader, think that the parents of soviet children had sex, then you are mistaken! And the children were either found in cabbage, or the stork brought them🤣
KISS In so-called USSR was deciphered as 'kinder of SS' and was banned for the same as their collegues from Australia. I'll just remember, that Paul Stanley and Bruce Kulick are jews. But Gene Simmons not 'simple' jew, he is concentrated jewish jew!😀 He was born in Israel in Haifa, in four years after WW2 and one year after creation of the State of Israel! Tell those guys aboun fascism😀
But we distracted! I like to be distract, you know😀
Please, be familiar with lyrics
"Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome, Reagan and Haig
Mr. Begin and friend mrs. Thatcher and Paisley
Mr. Brezhnev and party
The ghost of McCarthy
And the memories of Nixon
And now adding colour
A group of anonymous Latin-American
Meat packing glitterati"
I ask you to pay attention, that Roger didn't forget to mention soviet leader in two songs!
Probaly, he didn't like the soviet policy at that time🤔
Many years went from these times. The Afghan war ended, Begin left Beirut long ago and even died, like Brezhnev, but the planet is still turbulent
I came across an interesting article and I would like to analyze it a little
"Speaking of great works of art which you quote in your show – George Orwell's 1984 and Animal Farm and Aldus Huxley's Brave New World, you refer to the dystopian future they talk about and to the real-life leaders who are making their visions into a reality, mostly American presidents – the pictures of all presidents from Reagan to Biden are on the screens in you show presented as war criminals. I wonder if Chines president Xi, Russia's Putin and Belarus's Lukashenko are not on the screen because you think that they are not war criminals, or is there some other reason?
"My history is full of those American presidents; they have been denominating geo-political events since the Second World War when I was born. The 'evil empire' since WW2 is the USA and it continues to be. And right now, the US with Joe Biden at the helm is driving us towards World War 3 as fast as it can. And there seems to be two potential drivers – one is profit, the value of the war industries has gone up vastly since the Ukraine war started."
Probably Ukrainian war was started by itself🤔
- It was "not unprovoked" and that he also "condemned the provocateurs in the strongest possible terms! - 😡
Oh, yeah! Very comfortable position! russia appreciates it!😀
But, Roger, who has provoked? Can You give us detailed answer?
Of course it was United States, where you live from 2005, i'm right? You hate the country in which you were not born, but for some reason you 'martyrically' live there, constantly blaming. But for some reason you don’t go to live in Bangladesh or so-called 'palestine'🤔 Why, Roger, why?! Have you decided to take all the sins upon yourself so that fewer people can suffer? But for those 16.2$ million that you spent on your mansion near New York, you could feed so many hungry people🤔
Nice place, nice house🤔 But real altruists and moneyless people don’t live like that🤔 How to think about 'genocide' in Gaza strip in such comfortably home?😀
Let's sing!
I-i-i-i have my own comfortably home
And will finish it with one of the most epic solos in rock history from your fellow Pink Floyd member
I must admit, in my humble opinion, that song, written by you, Roger, most likely would never have been remembered by anyone without this solo🤔
Although in truth, Roger has more than one house in the USA, he also has this one, located at 156E 61st St, New York, NY 10065
It seems all these facts tell us: "We hate capitalism, but we have nothing against its fruits"🤣
Maybe not everything is as simple as Roger wants to tell us?
To make it easier to think, I recomend to you to watch these documentary.
First of they created by russian historian, bloger, volunteer and 'foreign agent' according to russian authorities, Alexander Shtefanov - https://t.me/alexandrshtefanov (they in russian, switch on subtitles!).
More of interesting documentary on his YT-channel.
Second created by russian journalist Andrei Zakharov - https://t.me/zakharovchannel
Although, something tells me that Roger isn't watching this.🤔 It can shake a comfortable paradigm
I'll continue quoting
"The other is what's considered to be their manifested destiny – to rule the world. So, they decide who is and who isn’t democratic. What makes anybody think the US is a democracy is absolutely beggar's belief, because it is not, and anybody with an IQ above room temperature knows it's not. It's driven by money and power and the people have no say in the matter".
Waters also mentions he knows he's making an extreme statement, but since he lives in America, and does not live in Russia or speak Russian, some issues he can't really comment on. He doesn't trust the American media, he quotes presidents Eisenhower's warnings against the so-called "military-industrial complex" and, in his show, the screens are full of examples and images which make clear where he thinks the real problem lies – victims of state violence against civilians, victims of the so-called "war on terror", victims of drone attacks, American foreign policies in South America and domestic policies against native Americans."
Well! Roger doesn't speak russian, ok! But it's not a problem, when you need to speak with russian propagandists!
Roger, when you whote "Brezhnev took Afghanistan", i think, you did not speak russian too🤔 You cant forget language, of course. But from somewhere you still found out that the USSR entered Afghanistan🤔 Tell us, Roger, who did you trust then? Where did you know about Afghan war? And who told you when to run excuse me, i sometimes remember you creation😀 I ask, who told you, that Brezhnev's soldiers entering in Afghanistan is not right? According to your statements, the western media are lying! Then who told you the thruth? Maybe those sources were lying to you too? It turns out that your songs did not contain the truth then? Or is the truth for you only what you are comfortable hearing at a particular moment in time?🤔
Further
"In a CNN interview you reacted to a question about Chinese violence towards their own people by saying it was "bollocks, absolute nonsense". Do you not believe, for example, the news about the atrocities being committed in Xinjiang against ethnic minorities or do you just think it's not your place to comment about that? To me, what's happening there is the closest thing to 1984 in the real world.
"Depends what story you read. I do not believe the western narrative about the Uyghurs. I don't believe it. I don't believe there are millions and millions of people locked up in concentration camps being slowly murdered and tortured to death and that the women are being raped by the Chinese government. I don't believe it."
No problem, Roger!
I did not see London and Coventry destroyed by nazi bombing. I can probably say that there were none, right? I did not see nazi's death camps, and, according to the same principle, they did not exist, right? By the way, i did not see the 'genocide' of native americans at all. And, of course, i did not live in Korea or China and couldn't watch the 'genocide' of koreans and chinese. I didn't mistake anywhere?🤔 And since the Western media is lying to us, no Brezhnev entered Afghanistan. Where did you get this bullshit from, I have absolutely no idea!
No, Roger, I'm not being funny. I am just demonstrating to you the operation of the principle that you have adopted. Not more.
"Is there a problem in that part of China? Possibly. Probably. Are the Muslim's all being re-educated in camps? Almost certainly not. Are some of them? Quite possibly, if they're members of ISIS for instance. If I was in China and spoke Chinese I could answer these questions, I cannot relay on the western mainstream media to tell me what's going on there and I don't believe them any more than I believe this Russiagate nonsense and any of this phobia against other countries going on all day every day, drumming up a third world war"
That's all your arguments? I'm not surprized😀
"Although Waters made clear that he's horrified by the invasion's results, he claims that a different Ukrainian policy in the Donbas and less American intervention would have led to a peaceful solution. This attitude led to strong reactions in the west and it seems Waters is once again paying a price for his politics."
Do you remember, Roger, the famous Chicken Kiev speech? Let's hear:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2004/may/23/20040523-101623-2724r/
"In that speech, delivered in Kiev months before a referendum in which Ukrainians voted to withdraw from the Soviet Union, Mr. Bush cautioned against “suicidal nationalism.”
The remarks subsequently were derided as lacking sufficient resolve against communism and, in any case, had little impact on the referendum, which passed overwhelmingly."
In other words, no one forced Ukraine to leave the USSR. They laughed at the words of the US President. People of Ukraine wanted to be theyself, independent from 'big eastern brother'. And now they fighting for theit independence, like the United States, in the years of its 'youth', fought against the country with which it later founded the NATO.
Yes, Ukraine not so rich! Ukraine smaller, than so-called 'russia'. And states of NATO help her to stand against agression, that started even not in 2014, but more earlier, and has been preparing since the beginning of putin’s reign
You don't trust to 'blogers' and 'eastern' media? Ok! Maybe you'd hear Girkin-Strelkov's colleague? Yevgeny Skripnik, a.k.a 'Prapor' (BTW, in ukrainian the word 'prapor' means 'flag', but in russian this word is short for 'prarorshik' [literally 'flag-man'], that means 'ensign') one of the comrades-in-arms of the above-mentioned terrorist, sentensed by Netherland's court, says the following (don't forget to switch on subtitles):
"As a close friend of Igor, I can reveal some secret that, as it were, he is one of the few who... developed the Novorossiya project before 2014. He traveled. He had his own network of supporters, taking advantage of the fact that he is an FSB employee full-time, high-ranking, I would say, colonel. Considerable position and rank. Developed the "Novorossiya" project right up to Transnistria"
You said:
"...they (your ex-colleagues from Pink Floyd) haven’t made the point of demanding, "Stop the war, stop the slaughter, bring our leaders together to talk!" It’s just this content-less waving of the blue and yellow flag. I wrote in one of my letters to the Ukrainian teenager Alina: I will not raise a flag in this conflict, not a Ukrainian flag, not a Russian flag, not a US flag".
Again comfortably position! Guilty all! Not only putin!🤣
But exactly putin captured Krimea in 2014 contrary to Budapest Memorandum! Exactly putin sent proxy to Donbass! Exactly putin in autumn of 2021 gathered troops to the border!
Did NATO pump Ukraine with weapons? Let me to think...🤔 And the sale of Tu-160 strategic bombers and cruise missiles capable of carrying nuclear weapons to Russia is such a pump-up, right?🤔
Maybe these bombers and missiles were sold to the USA?🤔 No! They were sold to Russia (in exchange for gas) and now some of these missiles are "returning" to Ukraine!
And what are the pitiful 'Javelins' (it's anti-tank weapon, intended not for attack, but for defense against attack!) compared to the most terrible weapon ever created by humans?
The ONLY putin's purpose is termination of the existence of Ukraine! And nothing else! And after that, when western countries 'swallow' it, he will gain strength for new attack on the Baltic countries, on Kazakhstan, on Moldova, on Georgia...
Hear, what says Zakhar Prilepin, one of most odious deputies!
russian imperial consciousness dictates to them that they must subjugate peoples!
More!
UPD About so-called Pridnestrovie (Transnistria):
At the congress of the so-called deputies of all levels of Transnistria, which will take place on February 28, a request to Moscow regarding the accession of the separatist region to the Russian Federation would be adopted. The statement was made by the Transnistrian opponent Ghenadie Ciorba, quoted by INFOTAG, according to Deschide.md.
Ciorba warned over to the fact that the gathering will take place a day before Russian President Vladimir Putin’s address to the Federal Assembly. The Transnistrian opposition does not rule out that this directive to organize the congress was given from Moscow itself. Ciorba assumes that within the forum of the so-called deputies of all levels of Transnistria, a request would be launched from the inhabitants of the left of the Dniester to join the region to the Russian Federation, and the next day, on February 29, Putin will announce this to the Assembly Federal, which will make the decision to proceed with the request.
The opponent believes that the assembly in Tiraspol and the protest organized there recently against the so-called economic pressures of the Republic of Moldova are aimed at showing that the residents of Transnistria are against Chisinau.
Do you remember, from what started the 'hot phaze' of this war?🤨
Oh, Roger, do you remember Berlin wall? They are offended that they were driven out of Germany. They are offended by the broken wall that they so diligently built! They want to build it again! They want their tanks and missiles in Europe again, Roger!
And here is 'marshal' of russian TV, Vladimir Soloviev, said, that not all nuclear wars are dangerous!🤣 How do you like it?
I think, another 'marshal' of russian TV Dmitry Kiselyov also familiar to you. Let's hear his words!
His rhethotic did not change in last some years
I repeat, all these words are spoken by a very senior 'journalist' and chief of russian state information agency 'Rossiya Segodnya' (literally 'Russia Today')
UPD By the way, what's the weather like over there? The russian weather forecaster Evgeny Tishkovets (he is lieutenant colonel of russian ministry of defence offence, btw) reports with undisguised joy that the meteorological situation is perfectly conducive to a nuclear bombing of Ukraine, as a result of which contaminated air will be carried to Europe. As far as I understand, you don’t mind, Roger?🤔
Here he is posing in front of the Tu-160 strategic bomber 'Vasily Reshetnikov'. Let me remind you that 8 of these machines were transferred to so-called 'russia' by Ukraine
And this is simply wonderful!🤣 With a deep neckline, covered in self-tanning and painted like a cheap prostitute, so-called 'journalist' Margarita Simonyan (BTW she is a editor-in-chief of the Russian state-controlled broadcaster RT, which you, as I know, very like to watch), tells to russians that detonating a nuclear bomb over... Siberia (in her country to spite the Americans!) is not so scary!🤣
And here she said, that exactly 'west' forcing them to kill ukrainians. Familiar narrative, isn't?🤔 Yes, apparently you watch Russian television quite actively😀
And you know, I have been almost all corners of 'russia' (I even went to your concert in moscow in 2002). I don't consider so-called 'russia' as a state. 'russia' - gosudar'stvo with so-called gosudar' (it means sovereign, monarch or emperor, not a 'president' at all! gosudarstvo is such as king's domain) at it's head. And I speak russian much better, than english, of course. I lived a long time in different places, i spoke with many people from different sicial groups. I've got enougtly wide communication experience. And, unfortunately, I considered, that significant majority (approximately 50%) of russian population absolutely apolitical. They don't care, who will rule them!
Aproximatelly 10 or, maybe, 20% - pacifists and those, who standing for democracy and against russian imperializm.
But most powerful - 30% - patriots in the only true sense of the word - boundlessly devotion to the gosudar'/monarch/emperor. They support active putin's regime in varying degrees of loyalty. Some of this number quite actively criticize the czar (a'k'a' gosudar') for being too soft and demanding tougher measures, but on the whole they support him. And, of course, they want to reach the English Channel in 5 days!
Look at this people! It's Limonov's fans fron nazi-bolshevik party of russia. They shout
"All hohols ('hohol' in russian derogatory slang is ukrainian) to russia! Krimea is not enougth to us! Donbass to russia! Mariupol - russian city! Kyiv - russian city! Tallin - russian city! Minsk - russian city! Vilnius - russian city! Warsaw - russian city! Riga - russian city! Berlin - russian city! Istanbul - russian city! Our MiGs (they mean russian military aircrafts) will land in Riga, our tanks will be in Prague! Take away and divide!"
Some of these guys fighting on the side of russia in Ukraine. And not only they!
I think, Roger, of course, won't read this text, he is a busy man🤔 but, maybe, it will be read some of your fans... maybe this will force someone to think a little🤔
But, why we speak only about Ukraine? With all my sympathy for the Ukrainians, I cannot pass by our dessert! So-called 'occupation' by Israel😀
At first!
"...so, you say, why don't I boycott America. Because I can't! I can't boycott America and the UK and France and Germany. Well, I could, I could go and live on a fucking island and do nothing for the rest of my life. But I think because Israel is so extreme and it gets more and more extreme as the minutes go by, we may win this and get human rights for the people of Palestine"
It should to read: "Because of Israel I cant live on island! Because of Israel i've bought a house for $16.2 millions in New York suburb! But if it weren’t for Israel, I would live in a shack on the banks of the Ganges or in Palestine! I hate Israel so much, even almost I cant breathe, eat and drink! And I don't sleep well because of Israel!"🤣 By the way, did you check out the rhyme?
I don't sleep well
because of Israel!
I give it to you!😀 Can be performed to the beat, like hip-hop. And you can ask Canye West to help you. You both have almost same thinking
@I like Hitler", a fully masked Ye told Jones. Minutes later, the rapper said, @I love Jewish people, but I also love Nazis... I see good things about Hitler."
I know, that he already apologized for that, but, as we say, "there was a residue left"
In truth, sometimes you have different preferences regarding places to live: you already bought home in 'hateful' USA, but Ye wants to live in 'russia' where are you in no hurry for some reason:
"Russia is going to be "a second home" for Ye, says Sudan: "He will be spending a lot of time out there."
...but most definitely, as seemed to me, both of you have sympathies for the russian czar🤔
Anyway, let's turn back to interview:
"The solution is a state that is democratic and that every citizen and every person who lives within the territory has equal civil, political and religious rights. If that means the end of the Jewish state, so be it. It would be like having a Christian state. If America would become a Christian only state, I would say, you can't do that. I would say – get rid of America because you cannot have a Christian supremacist state where only Christians have rights. That's anti-human, anti-democratic and against everything I believe in. so is the Jewish state of Israel, because people who are not Jewish do not have rights. There's no getting round it. Maybe it's the nomenclature that is the problem, because (the Jewish state) is expressed in the behavior of these disgusting thugs, the settlers, like the ones from Hawara. Doesn't that make your blood boil? We've all met these kinds of people. They don't have to be Jewish. Their religion is irrelevant. It's the attachment to the religion that they think gives them the permission to be a fascist."
Here, of course, we need to be consistent. You said about democracy? Ok! how about democracy in... let's say Syria? Or in Sudan? Or in Afghanistan? Maybe democracy exist in Iran? And how about China or North Korea? How there with democracy? Oh! How I can forget! North Korea is DPRK, it is People and DEMOCRACY!🤣 If the word 'democracy' is present in the name of State, then this State is undoubtedly democratic!🤣
Ok, it's a little speculation, but you allow it to yourself, why I can't? Let's remember the prerequisites for the formation of a Jewish country? Do you familiar with word 'pogrom'. About Holocaust, I think, you heard enough.
In order not to encounter anything like this in the future, on the territory belonging to the British Empire, where the kingdoms of Judah and Israel existed many centuries before, a kind of 'refuge' was created for the Jews, who throughout the foreseeable history were persecuted by everyone who was not laziness. They simply need their own nation state, where they will not be exposed to totally elimination. And according to pre-made agreements, such as Balfour declaration and 181 resolution was created the jewish state.
Were here some states before this happening? Except Ottoman empire, which conquered this lands
By the way, check it out
"In accordance with the Muslim dhimmi system, the Ottoman Empire guaranteed limited freedoms to Christians, Jews, and other 'people of the book', such as the right to worship, own property, and be exempt from the obligatory alms (zakat) required of Muslims. However, non-Muslims (or dhimmi) were subject to various legal restrictions, including being forbidden to carry weapons, ride on horseback, or have their homes overlook those of Muslims; likewise, they were required to pay higher taxes than Muslim subjects, including the jizya, which was a key source of state revenue. Many Christians and Jews converted to Islam to secure full social and legal status, though most continued to practice their faith without restriction."
How do you think that given these initial conditions, plus pogroms, the Holocaust and other elements of anti-Semitism (in fact - anti-Judaism, because arabs are semites too), do Jews have the right to a national country?🤔
Or maybe the British administration was somehow particularly disposed towards the Jews? Let's check!
🤔M-hm... very 'impartialy'!😀
And I will only remember to you, that your daddy was died in 1944, fighting aganst nazis in Italy. I know how much you worried about this:
Daddy's flown across the ocean
Leaving just a memory
A snapshot in the family album
Daddy, what else did you leave for me?
Daddy, what'd ya leave behind for me?
In light of this, you probably shouldn't miss the fact that the muslim spiritual leader of Mandatory Palestine met personally with Mussolini and Hitler in 1941🤔 These meetings were positive
Look at their friendly handshakes😀
Germany and Italy recognize the right of the Arab countries to solve the question of the Jewish elements, which exist in Palestine and in the other Arab countries, as required by the national and ethnic (völkisch) interests of the Arabs, and as the Jewish question was solved in Germany and Italy
I don't think this should be separated from the general🤔
I know, Rodger, you supports China, you even performed a concert in Shanghhai in 2007 and you said:
"Taiwan is part of China. That has been absolutely accepted by the whole of [sic] international community since 1948. If you don’t know that you aren’t reading enough..."
Well... OK! But... Do you agree, that is contradicts to your beliefs about mono-national state, which you denied? I repeat your words one more:
"If America would become a Christian only state, I would say, you can't do that. I would say – get rid of America because you cannot have a Christian supremacist state where only Christians have rights. That's anti-human, anti-democratic and against everything I believe in. so is the Jewish state of Israel, because people who are not Jewish do not have rights."
What do we know about China?
"China is the country with the largest population in the world. As of the end of 2022, the population of China was 1 billion 411 million 750 thousand people. There are 56 nationalities living in China, of which more than 90% are Han (Chinese). Besides them, the most numerous are the Zhuangs, Manchus, Hui, Mongols, Uighurs, Miao, and Tibetans.
The official language of the country is Chinese (Mandarin). The most widespread religions in China are Buddhism and Taoism. Part of the population professes Islam and Christianity."
It's not supremacism?
Let's turn our attention to Israel!
"At the beginning of May 2022, the population of Israel numbered 9,506,000 people, of whom 73.9% were Jews, 21.1% were Arabs, and 5% were non-Jewish and non-Arab Christian immigrants. The country's population growth since Independence Day in 2021 was 1.9% - about the same as the year before."
Btw, how many Jews live on the territory of so-called 'palestine' and Gaza Strip?🤨
So, in China 90% of people - chinese, in Israel 73.9% - jews. I think there's something to think about🤔
For example, according to some sources, 76.9% population of France are french and 64% are christians, 88% population of Germany are germans and almost 70% are christians of different denominations. Maybe you'll want to tell me about population of Korea (and no mattter, which of both), Japan or Mongolia? Don't you have a wish to tell about 'supremacism' in these countries?
Territory, occupied by so-called 'russia' contains of 81% of 'russians', only 53% population are christians. 8,2% are muslims by the way!
In Israel, as we know, 18% population are muslims. And what is no less interesting is that this percentage has increased since 2014!
Let's watch this table, where shown population of jews in muslim countries
"In the 20th century, approximately 900000 Jews migrated, fled, or were expelled from Muslim-majority countries throughout Africa and Asia. Primarily a consequence of the 1948 Arab–Israeli War, the mass movement mainly transpired from 1948 to the early 1970s, with one final exodus of Iranian Jews occurring shortly after the Islamic Revolution in 1979–1980. An estimated 650000 (72%) of these Jews resettled in Israe///
By 2019, the total number of Jews in Arab countries and Iran had declined to 12,700, and in Turkey to 14,800"
How do you think, why in some of these countries population of jews dropped sharply?
But let's return to China. By the way, i did not see, where did you admit that you speak Chinese. But you approve, that information about genocide of uygurs in China - an invention of Western propagandists. I wonder, where you take the information about real situation in China? Probably there, where about so-called 'russia' - in russian propaganda media, like RT, Sputnik and etc.🤔 Probably according these sources there is no genocide in 'friendly' for so-called 'russia' China.
Of course China doesn't destroy Muslim mosques in northern provinces - it's 'fantasy' of HRW (quite left-wing in truth)
"Chinese authorities have decommissioned, closed down, demolished, and converted mosques for secular use as part of the government’s efforts to restrict the practice of Islam. The authorities have removed Islamic architectural features, such as domes and minarets, from many other mosques.
Chinese law allows people to practice only in officially approved places of worship of officially approved religions, and authorities retain strict control over houses of worship. Since 2016, when President Xi Jinping called for the 'Sinicization' of religions, which aims to ensure that the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) is the arbiter of people’s spiritual life, state control over religion has strengthened.
'Mosque consolidation' is referenced in an April 2018 central CCP document that outlines a multi-pronged national strategy to 'Sinicize' Islam, or make it more Chinese. It instructs the CCP and state agencies throughout the country to 'strengthen the standardized management of the construction, renovation and expansion of Islamic religious venues.' The document notes that a central principle behind such 'management' is that 'there should not be newly built Islamic venues,' in order to 'compress the overall number [of mosques].' While there can be exceptions, the document states that 'there should be more [mosque] demolitions than constructions.'"
M-hm... Sinicization🤔 One China, one Xi leader, one faith... Somewhere we already heard words like these🤔
I'm sure there's something to think about🤔
However... Much easier to blame Israel in destruction of mosques in Gaza, right? There is on a surface: evil jews bombing 'peaceful' buildings and killing 'innocent' children... Enought to switch on the TV, let's say Al-Jazeera or same channel
But are these children really 'innocent', expecially with russian AK-47 in their arms?🤨
Many of them have not had time to tear themselves away from their mother’s breast, but are already 'fighting for freedom'
"Please! Go back to the 67 borders, get the settlers out, allow the Palestinians a separate and sovereign state, and you can do it tomorrow. It's not rocket science. But we've all known, right from the beginning that there was never ever going to be any possibility for any of that. A lot of people believed in all the shenanigans of pretending that. They never had any intention of there being a Palestinian state because they've read their bible, they want Jorden and the whole fucking lot and they want it to be a Jewish supremacist apartheid state."
You advise to return to the 67 borders🤔 I remember, that in 1967 was 'Six-day war', when 5 muslim countries srtiked to Israel and and got raked hard for it. For example, Egypt, which at that time had the latest strategic bombers, lost the Sinai Peninsula. Its area is three times larger than Israel itself! And Israel even extracted Oil there!
BTW, speaking about 67 borders, what do you mean? Who was owner of so-called West bank? And did they have rights to this territory?
I won't wait for answer and remember, that Jordan occupied territory of West bank from 1948, and didn't intend to give it away.
From 1948 to 1967 The UN has not adopted any resolutions on such actions of Jordan as the occupation and annexation of the West Bank of Jordan, the expulsion of Jews, the destruction of dozens of synagogues, and others
Did I understand correctly that this is the situation that would suit you? But the question arises: what about the so-called 'Palestine' that you are so worried about?🤔 I think, something doesn't add up here😏
After all, according to resolution 181, this territory is part of 'Palestine' that should have been created back in 1948. But instead of agreeing to this, the Arab League announced that it would never recognize Israel! And in truth, they all wanted only one - eliminating of Israel. And for this purpose, the League of Arab States has banned the granting of citizenship to Palestinian refugees. Literally it must be that: so-called refugees must live in constant lack of rights, dirt, devastation and unsanitary conditions, imbued with anger towards Israel, which UNRWA purposefully feeds them, so that at the 'right hour' they can be a 'fifth column and 'cannon fodder' for the next massacre
According to the legislation of some Arab countries, the issuance of citizenship to refugees is prohibited. And this is a unique case! We are witnessing the emergence of a new nation - a Palestinian refugee 'by birthright'.
BTW, for example, american developer and father of models Bella and Jiji Hadid - Mohamed Hadid are 'palestinian refugee' too!
...the family moved to Syria, and Hadid's father joined the United States Information Agency (USIA) and Voice of America (VOA). Hadid and his family lived in Damascus, Tunisia and Greece before moving to Washington, D.C. when he was 14 years old, as his father had a job at the VOA headquarters there and spent the rest of his career there with VOA and USIA as a writer, editor and translator.
🤔Something, called intuition, tells me that Mohammed’s daddy and dearest grandfather of fashion models was not such a 'simple poor' man, and probably had considerable writing talent🤔
But if we take Ukraine as an example, then after some time refugees, of whom there are about ten million, will be able to become citizens of the countries to which they were forced to flee. But it is impossible to do this with Palestinian refugees. Why - written above. I'm afraid, you, Roger, did not contribute in any way to resolving this issue. You just wanted to be 'pretty good' at someone else's expense🤔
Something else about 'occupation': Israel and Egypt made peace and Sinai returned 'back home' after israeli occupation!🤨
About Golan hights, which were occupied by Israel too, I think, the question about return them to Syria even not standing, because of Syria ruled by dictators family Asad, is in no hurry to reach a truce.
By the way, we already know you really like to defend the rights of the so-called 'palestinians' and so-called 'russia'. And 'russia', in turn, protects the dictator of Syria. And russian military advisors teach asad's warriors to use russian military technic. Taking all this into account, tell me, my friend Roger, what do you have to say about the massacre in the Yarmouk Palestinian refugee camp?
"In December 2012, fierce clashes erupted in Yarmouk, causing numerous civilian casualties, severe damage to property and the displacement of thousands of Palestine refugees and Syrians. The camp was under siege from July 2013, drastically restricting the entry of commercial and humanitarian goods."
"BEIRUT, Dec 16 (Reuters) - Syrian fighter jets fired at least two rockets at the Palestinian Yarmouk camp in Damascus on Sunday, for the first time since the revolt against President Bashar al-Assad erupted last year, activists in the capital said.
They said dozens of people were killed when at least one rocket hit a mosque in the camp sheltering refugees who fled the violence in nearby suburbs of Damascus."
Probably it's lie, because of it's western media, right? Ok! There is The New Arabia, founded by 'palestine' public figure Azmi Bishara, which became the subject of a criminal investigation for acts of alleged treason and espionage and was suspected of supplying targeting information to Hezbollah. I thhink, it's reliable source for you:
"The Syrian regime had encouraged Palestinian youths to demonstrate on the border of the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights to commemorate the Nakba. Israeli soldiers fired tear gas and live bullets at demonstrators resulting in hundreds of injuries and 17 deaths as Syrian soldiers stood by without intervening and prevented ambulances from reaching the wounded."
I have no complaints against the IDF, but the Syrian dictator deliberately provoked the so-called 'refugees' to violate the border and did not try to protect them in any way and, in fact, prevented the provision of assistance
And it's just one episode of many! According to Syrian Network for Human Rights
"3.196 Syrian Palestinians Were Killed by Syrian Regime Forces, including 491 Due to Torture, Between March 2011 and July 2020... noting that at least 2,663 Syrian Palestinians are still detained or forcibly disappeared by the Syrian regime."
But it's not all, of course! During the Syrian Civil war, which started after Arab Spring, by Assad regime with supporting of 'friendly' kremlin regime, were killed almost 600000 civilians!
Ah, yeah! You condermn it all! But the real reason, should be assumed, is Israel!😀
You know, perhaps I shouldn’t tell you long and tediously how strong your misconceptions are regarding the so-called 'refugees' from the so-called 'palestine'. It’s better to listen (don’t forget to turn on subtitles) to a literate person. Regarding the so-called 'genocide' you can start from 39:42
Some about so-called 'apartheide' and 'discrimination' of non-Jews in Israel. For example - general of IDF Ghassan Alian
This is leutenant-colonel
These people not only got weapons, they have entire military formations at their disposal!
About policy! Several times political party Balad was disqualified for 'supporting terrorism', but the Israeli court restored its rights! Whoa! This, as I understand it, is 'discrimination'!😀
You know, Roger, the paece between arabs and jews, I think, is possible. But the path for it is long and thorny! And I’m sure that they will figure it out without your conclusions, which, admittedly, are not very smart🤔
And speaking about 'apatheide' you meanted that?
I know you're probably waiting for me to talk about the so-called 'genocide' in Gaza. And I'll tell you my opinion. Without a doubt, civilians are dying in Gaza (how peaceful they are is a big question, but let’s leave it out). But you see, what a thing: if it so happens that a Hamas member, who has not created anything in his life and has learned only to hate and kill, takes hostages and keeps them surrounded by his family, which don't resist it at all, in this case he makes them accomplices in his 'freedom fight' terrorist attack. However, I am sure they have the same opinion about the Israelis, this is their favorite rhetoric, with which it is so easy to 'fight for freedom'.
Also to talk about 'genocide', 'apartheid' and etc:
Interior Minister Moshe Arbel (Shas) has decided to grant permanent residency to Hamid Abu Arar, who lost his wife in the October 7 attack on Israel, and saved dozens of IDF soldiers that same day.
On October 7, Hamid and his wife were shot by Hamas terrorists as they drove in their vehicle. Hamid's wife, an Israeli citizen, was murdered in the shooting, and Hamid himself was injured. Immediately after the shooting, despite his own injuries, Hamid contacted IDF soldiers and warned them of the impending attack, endangering his own life but saving dozens of soldiers.
How do you think, maybe he should have 'fougt for freedom' together with these, who killed his wife? And your fans would have recieve yet another occasion to blame Israel?🤔
But he surrendered to the occupiers! He's a traitor, right, Roger? From HAMAS point of view, this is correct, so be consistent and don't deny!
At the end i'd like to touch the question about the area of the land. Because of many people think that the larger the territory, the richer and more successful the country😀 I'm 'citizen' (for now) of most GREAT country of the World, by the way and I could to argue with this statement🤔
Anyway! Look at this list!
The area of only Gaza strip, which controlled by palestinian adminisration HAMAS, equals 365 km2. It two times bigger, than territory of Liechtenstein, which doesn't have exit to seashore! Andorra in the same conditions has area only 100 km2 more!
All so-called 'palestine', consisting of 'Zone A' (where is not one living Jew!), 'Zone B' (so-called West Bank without Zone C, the area of which is 61%) and Gaza strip, where it is very undesirable for Jews to go, has territory approximatelly 365 + 5655*0,39 = 2570,45 km2. With summary population 3.000.000 (W.B.) + 2.400.000 (G.S.) - 700.000 (population of Zone C) = 4.700.000 density is 1828/km2 Not bad!🤔 For example area of Monaco is only 2 kilometers is 18000/km2. BTW, owerhelming religion majority is christianity which equals 86%
I'll repeat your words again:
I would say – get rid of America because you cannot have a Christian supremacist state where only Christians have rights. That's anti-human, anti-democratic and against everything I believe in. so is the Jewish state of Israel, because people who are not Jewish do not have rights.
Probably they only apply to America🤔 But if not only to America, then maybe we should start getting rid of Monaco🤔 Because in Israel, as I already wrote, Judaism confession are 73,9% and 18% are muslims. I think, sometimes repeating some certains are helpful🤔
In Singapore with area of 734,3 km2 (in 3,5 times smaller!) and almost same population of 5.918.000 density equals 7.804/km2. For example, GDP of Singapore equals $753 billions, but South Korea - World technology giant with density 507/km2 (less in 15.39 times!) $1.709 trillion, it means, that GDP per capita in Singapore higher than in South Corea in four times!
But in truth... who am I trying to fool with numbers? You are left-wingers! You needn't it! You need only emotions😞
Do you think 'palestine' very poor 'country'? O! Did you hear about 'palestinian' millionaires or billionaires? They really are! For example meet Munib Al Masri with $1.5 billions!
The most prominent member of the family today is billionaire Munib al-Masri, who built himself an eye-catching palatial estate atop Mount Gerizim in Nablus. It is an exact copy of a 16th century Italian villa. He has filled his palace, surrounded by gardens and a swimming pool, with art collections, including an original Picasso painting, a Raphael tapestry and an Egyptian golden throne.
There it is!
Your, Roger, house near New York is more modern, but this building looks more monumental😀
...according to an investigative report published in the pan-Arab newspaper Asharq Al-Awsat, there are at least 600 millionaires living in the Gaza Strip.
Etc... etc...
Oh, Roger, would you tell us about 'specific' palestinian culture? Perhabs you have something that is 'inaccessible' and 'hidden' from owerhelming majority?🤔 For example Kurdish people - largest nationality deprived of its country. And there is evidence of Kurdish culture. I hope you have something to say in defense of at least 30 million representatives of this nationality?🤔
I think, Palestine could exist, but it is necessary to fulfill the conditions - peaceful coexistence with Israel, renunciation of methods of terror, etc. And the path is longer and more thorny, the more terrorist attacks, like what happened on October 7. With idiotic chants "from the river to the sea" there will definitely never be any Palestine
What do I want to tell in the end?
Roger, you are very old man, but years, which you lived, did not make you smarter. Unfortunately you are simply very old fool.
